What we are looking at here is a mis reading of the intention of Fred Hoyle
by attributing to Fred a real belief in the christian oligarchy under which
he was forced to work. Let's please get back to the empirical stuff which
is what science is about. "ALT." doesn't have to mean stupid bible
thumping!!

Get real and move on!!!!


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Sincerely,

Michael Jordan
astro@lmi.net

"Kari Tikkanen" <ktikkane@lastu3.oulu.fi> wrote in message
news:98lkk2$2mk$5@ousrvr3.oulu.fi...
> In talk.origins Jabriol <Jabriol@mailops.com> wrote:
>
> : In an article in New Scientist, Michael Shallis has come to the defense
of
> : physicist Fred Hoyle, who has been criticized for some of his views.
> : "Perhaps Hoyle's biggest heresy," says Shallis, 'is that he has
introduced
> : the idea that the Universe needs a cosmic intelligence to control it.'
He
> : adds that Hoyle believes that without such intelligence "the Universe
does
> : not make sense."
> : Though Shallis maintains that the existence of God or purpose in the
> : universe is a "metaphysical question" with which science cannot deal, he
> : observes "that scientists are permitted by their own colleagues to say
> : metaphysical things about lack of purpose and not the reverse. This
suggests
> : . . . that science, in allowing this metaphysical notion, sees itself as
> : religion and presumably as an atheistic religion (if you can have such a
> : thing)."
> : Refusal to believe in a higher power reveals an attitude similar to that
> : cited by the psalmist, who said: "The wicked one according to his
> : superciliousness makes no search; all his ideas are: 'There is no God.'"
> : (Psalm 10:4; 19:1) Furthermore, this attitude has the effect of limiting
the
> : theories of the origin of the universe to mere chance.
>
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> Some tell here that Fred Hoyle was never invited to Finland because
> our God believing professor of Astronomy detested atheistic Fred Hoyle.
>
> Some yrs ago I found old book written by Hoyle where he wrote like:
> How Bible writes could be right in heaven things when they made
> mistakes already in terrestrial things..
>
>
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